Friday, November 21, 2008
Ajira Airways: The New Lost ARG? 94
A new LOST music video by The Fray, appeared on ABC.com. Embedded in the video was a quick flash of a company logo - Ajira Airways. The website officially launches on January 21 - which also happens to be the premiere of LOST season 5 - but you can enter your email address now for future updates.
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First!!! wow...I can't believe it.
Anyway, I watched Life on Mars last night and I saw the video!!!
I am so excited...
xxoo
I was messing around with downloading some files yesterday (you'd think I would know better by now!)and I really scr*wed up my computer so I may be down for a bit. I hope not, but you know how that goes...
meanwhile, loving the excitement!!!
XXOO
This looks completely at odds with what we have seen so far from Lost or any of the ARG's, my guess is that this will turn into a companion site to the next series.
Each week as the Losties try and get back to the island the site might get updated ?
I don't know, zort, why would it say to check back often if that's the case?
...maybe just a way to keep our disappointment with DWY at bay?
xxoo
or maybe, that's our way to "get to the island?" I mean, we are supposedly employees of Dharma now, right?
xxoo
I knew the minute that I went to bed, something would happen. lol personally I think it's ARG related
Ditto Lisa! I've watched it just now, and I'm hoping...that it's not a special vacation cruise or something to meet the Fray.
Posting for email. Are we going to discuss things in the promo or not?
I know how you feel lisa. I went t bed right before the site went live.
I'm hoping it's ARG related too.
this is exactly how find815 started. I remember waiting for it when they showed it in a commercial. I'm sure it is ARG, it has to be !
memphish
We did alot of talking last night after the promo was on during Grey's Anatomy and then we went to the ABC site for the 3 minute version. I was trying not to say to much but I think the excitement of something new over took all of us.
Codysmom
I think I'll put my screen caps on my myspace too.
We probably have pretty much the same ones.
I wish I knew why I can't get them to link here. I must be using the wrong code.
I haven't been through last night's comments yet. Are you saying if I don't want to be spoiled I shouldn't? And where did we end up on what's being discussed today? Here and on the main site?
I don't think there was anything too spoilerish last night but then I don't worry about promos too much either, they are the one spoiler that I allow. I'm soooo tired and I have to go help someone haul wood in 30 minutes in the cooooolllddd. Yuck ! It sucks having a big truck sometimes !! Everyone wants to use it !
iTunes has the video download for Free!
Yawn!!!!!!!!!! Good Morning! Boy, this reminds me of the good ol' days (no sleep) lol..
sayid'sgirl, if you're putting screencaps on the blog here from photobucket, use the direct link (second one down)
As far as spoiler or not - yes, about the same as the first Season 5 promo, but more. I'm in the camp that promos aren't spoilers so much and the only ones I would do (like Lisa) and we have to keep in mind TPTB might be misleading us..
BTW, Black Swan = codysmom
cool memphish, thanks!
I hope you all check out my blog now and then. I have a ornament swap on it and now playing pay it forward. I know it's not Lost ( it did have some lost ARG stuff on it before) but I just wanted to make sure people check out mine every now and then. :-) Thanks, back to your regular programing :-)
memphish
If you thought the first promo was spoilerish. You definitely will think this one is. But I'm like lisa and Black Swan aka codysmom. I don't consider promos spoilers.
Lisa, post the addy, I'll go visit!
xxoo
memphish
Thanks I forgot they were going to have an itunes download.
link
thanks, or you can click on my name and go to the NH good life one.
I mean life in New Hampshire lol
Hmmm. I think I"ll avoid the spoiler for now. That will leave me something to go to in a moment of weakness over the holidays. Besides, The Fray really isn't my cup of tea.
I meant to say avoid the promo, not the spoiler.
cool, lisa! I'll check it out!
thanks, now I'm off to haul wood for a while. think warm thoughts
Stay warm, Lisa!
Some interesting things I found while researching the lyrics of the Fray song, "You Found Me":
from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27758006/
"Slade says that the lyrics for “You Found Me” were written two and a half years ago. But “I’ve always had that camera rolling in my head when I write the songs,” Slade says. “When Joe (King) and I do a lot of the co-writing, it’s always talking in terms of character development and foreshadowing and conflicts and resolution. We talk in really theatrical terms, so I think that has helped us.” (Asked if he watches “Grey’s Anatomy,” Slade says, “I have seen it a few times. It’s a really good show.”)
There are dramatic moments aplenty on “The Fray.” “You Found Me” stemmed from crises among friends and family that prompted the singer to confront the age-old question of why bad things happen to good people."
You Found Me
By Isaac Slade/Joe King/The Fray
//Verse 1//
I found God
On the corner of First and Amistad
Where the west
Was all but won
All alone
Smoking his last cigarette
I said, “Where you been?”
He said, “Ask anything.”
//Verse 2//
Where were you
When everything was falling apart?
All my days
Were spent by the telephone
That never rang
And all I needed was a call
It never came
To the corner of First and Amistad
//Chorus 1//
Lost and insecure
You found me, you found me
Lying on the floor
Surrounded, surrounded
Why’d you have to wait?
Where were you, where were you?
Just a little late
You found me, You found me
//Verse 3//
In the end
Everyone ends up alone
Losing her
The only one who’s ever known
Who I am
Who I’m not, and who I want to be
No way to know
How long she will be next to me
//Chorus 2//
Lost and insecure
You found me, you found me
Lying on the floor
Surrounded, surrounded
Why’d you have to wait?
Where were you, where were you?
Just a little late
You found me, You found me
//Bridge//
Early morning
The city breaks
I’ve been calling
For years and years and years and years
And you never left me no messages
You never sent me no letters
You got some kind of nerve
Taking all I want
//Chorus 3 and outro//
Lost and insecure
You found me, you found me
Lying on the floor
Where were you, where were you?
Lost and insecure
You found me, you found me
Lying on the floor
Surrounded, surrounded
Why’d you have to wait?
Where were you, where were you?
Just a little late
You found me, You found me
Why’d you have to wait
To find me, to find me?
Let me know if you want that deleted because the lyrics make it a loooonnnggggg post!
(I'll always think of you as Black Swan, Capsom! LOL)
I, too, think this is a new beginning of a new ARG. According to comments over at Dark's, this is being done by Leeleefilms.com...not Hoodlum! So they really did get fired! Ha!
The only thing that troubles me is that they actually mention the start date of Season 5, which might mean a more promotional aspect to whatever happens. And I'm not so sure all this crap we've been through with DWY will fit in at all. Time will tell.
I, too, am in the camp that these promos should not be considered spoilery. They are always misleading anyway, and are open to many interpretations.
if you highlight the bottom of the web page for Ajira, you will see that it is owned by ABC Inc.
Yahoo!!! Something interesting! I haven't seen the promo yet - I think I'll save it for when I'm bored and have some free time to totally obsess over it.
I'm so excited!!!!!
I missed posting for a bit because, well, hoodlum stinks and I am glad they got fired.
But I am a bricklayer! And they or I screwed up my registration, so I am a female and my birth date is wrong!
If any of you TLC'ers remember a little picture floating around Lena made of me in a dress it is fitting I guess!! LOL
LOL, Ms. Thrasher! I remember that pic!
It was an ugly dress though!
According to comments over at Dark's, this is being done by Leeleefilms.com...not Hoodlum! So they really did get fired! Ha!
Good info, maven! thanks!
LOL, thrasher in a dress being a brick layer... I will call you Kate from now on (I seem to remember that pic, too). I'll take you shopping, Kate. We'll get a knock-out dress for you to wear.. lol!
That would be awesome! I need something to show off my legs!!
Does Dark or anyone else have any screen caps posted? If so what section I can't find any. I took some of my own but I'd like to see more.
Sayid'sgirl: The ODI has screencaps posted.
Ok this is 100% off topic, but I'm really excited and wanted to share. I just got in my application for going back to college! Yay me!
Thanks Maven
Congrats, MadAriad!!!!!! What's your major?
Oh, yeah, thrasher... lol, you have such great legs, we'll have to find you a mini-skirt!
Hey did anyone notice that Penny is wearing a wedding ring?
Do you think Desmond is time jumping again? He seems confused when he wakes up.
Good catch, sayid'sgirl! Very interesting... it's very possible he's time jumping again! Maybe this time he saw all the bad things happening on the Island?
That's a good thought! Black Swan
Oh man, I have to go watch that promo some time today. Too busy now, it's not fair!
Thanks everyone for all the info. Maybe if we agree to talk about the promo heavily here, we can put a caveat addition on the post on the front page? I vote for talking about it in detail, but understand if some folks are more spoiler sensitive then I am. :-)
OT: Hey Maven, is mah-jongg difficult to learn? I kind of want to try. Tx.
My two cents on to discuss or not to discuss. I think Lost ARGs is the perfect place to discuss it, seeing that the Ajira Airways information comes from the video/promo.
I wonder if this will be like Find 815 (even though it's not a Hoodlum production) and hint at things for the new season. Find 815 gave specific character names and even the whole theory behind what happened to the plane.
I think participation in the "new ARG" if that's what it in fact is, may go hand in hand with the preview of season 5 information. Just MHO though.
At DarkUFO someone said that Ajira is Hindi for Island.
I vote we can talk about the video here... all and everything!
I'll second that vote. All in favor say Aye, all apposed, say Nay.
Aye
Aye!
Aye!!!
xxoo
Aye! We need something to talk about.
Hi guys, wanted your opinions. This is a Nov 10th cached version of the Ajira site:
http://64.233.183.132/search?q=cache:fbJ4h2IZ0SUJ:ajiraairways.com/+site:ajiraairways.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
Whois states that the site was launched on October 21st, so the content was added before the official reveal but after the creative people messed with it. Thus, the "Burky...call me!" thing is weird. It's probably an admin thing, but it's still cool trivia I think. Maybe it's referring to Bryan Burk, Lost exec producer who is often known as "Burky".
yeah Nick, I just read that on Lospedia blog that you wrote. the number is 818-415-8253 and I looked it up, it's a Burbank number. Maybe I will give it a call now. I'll let you know what they say
You're braver than me!
first time got a busy signal second time it rang around 6 times and then said 818-415-8253 is not available please leave a message. beep I didn't leave a message. I figure it's 2 there, don't know where they would all be. I was going to ask for Burky lol
Haha, well at least we now know it's real so haven't been trying to decode the numbers!
AYE!!
Aye.
Way to go MadAriad.
Black Swan, you sure look good on our blog.
What a difference a day makes.
Big AYE!
Capcom: You can email me and I'll talk mah jongg! LOL
We might just get to be part of an awesome ARG yet....as long as the Lost TPTB are in charge of course!
I hope so I'm ready for something awesome.
well just thought i would check the arg site for a laugh and bugger me its all kicking off again ,received my email and very happy to hear of HVE's sad story with the police and the baliffs but cant get anything from dwy.com except the standard light blue screen of death. any ideas or was i just too late.....
Intrancer,
It could be the problem of Flashplayer 10 not working on the standard light blue screen of death.We had to uninstall 10.0 and install 9.0 to get the site to work.I hope you remember your password.
Thanks for your kind words, tav:)
I've been nosing around and found some interesting stuff at the Spoiler TV forum:
"In Islam (Arabic) , Ajira means "Eternal Life after Death" or the plane of existence that is beyond our world."
and
http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diary28/masses.htm
"No matter how we characterize this spiritual layer, it is the realm of the so-called “higher selfs”, muses, souls, spirits, gods, “angels” etc. The term “angel” specifies the attributes of this realm more precisely. In etymological perspective angel means “messenger” and was probably derived from the Sanskrit term “ajira”, signifying a “fast” motion. We can assume that “ajira” was used as an expression for “spiritual” non-local “quasi teleporting” phenomena - or the assumed “morphogenetic fields” in the sense of Rupert Sheldrake - originally, this is: spirits were seen as non-locally communicating phenomena. "
Very good find Black Swan!!
xxoo
Thanks for that, Black Swan!
Also, over at Dark's there are various versions of the promo up. Some of them have slightly different scenes. One of them has Desmond going to leave and Penny asking him where he's going...so it seems that ABC is really promoting that the O6 (and others) have to go back because Destiny Calls!
cheers tav ill give it a go!
FYI: Matt Carter (commenting on DarkUFO) posted a screen cap slide show on his blog which shows a lot of things I missed (for instance, Jack is giving Sayid an oxygen mask when he attacks him!).
I like the "Check back often to find new ways to get lost in the world."
The middle Eastern connection also makes it fit the scenes from last season of Ben in Iraq or wherever he was. Finally, something is happening!!!!
maven
I noticed the oxygen mask on Sayid and Jack also looks like he's trying to examine him he has a small light in his hands. There were alot of comments on this at Darks about why Sayid is attacking him but I have a different theory than most of them do.
I'm still not sure how much we can discuss here about the promo. I don't want to offend anyone. When you go to Darks alot of times they discuss other spoilers along with the current topic. So I really hate looking at promo discussions there cause sometimes I see things I don't want to.
But no one was talking here much.
Sayid's girl: I thought we decided it was okay to talk about the promo. Anything released by ABC was okay? This blog is really about whatever ARG is happening, though. Maybe the promo discussion should be over at TLC?
I know I'm confused. :)
Usually if we discuss promos it's at TLC. But it's usually only the one directly after the show no others. But maybe this is an exception.
Also someone not sure who it was said we should discuss the promo here because it had a possible ARG connection.
There are things I noticed that I like to discuss like something about Hurley and I mentioned what I noticed about Penny. I think that I may have upset memphish with that though. I'm not sure. If I did I apologize memphish.
Well, I'm of the opinion that the promo only was used to give us the website for Ajira. Other than that it is strictly a promo for the show and not any possible ARG. I'm not even sure Ajira will be a true ARG...it does seem so tied into the promotion of Season 5...giving the actual start date for example. Therefore, I think the promo and it's implications to S5 should be discussed over at TLC with a caveat for those who consider ABC promos spoilers...then it would be up to themselves whether or not to check out the comments. Listen, I'm so desperate to discuss anything right now! LOL
I'll email the admins and ask what they think.
Ok maven
That'll be good.
Black Swan and Maven,those other worldly factors seem to have more weight as to where the show is going. It does seem to be playing a major role in our Losties lives.
It isn't well defined,but it's there. I have some things I noticed as well from the promo.I hope to be able to dicuss them later.Mrs Village & I are packing for our trip tomorrow to the Florida panhandle where our Daughter lives.I'll try to check in
when I can. Finally with 60 days to go,things are actually happening.
I don't really count as an admin now, but I'll weigh in anyway. I think in terms of discussing the existence of and the possible in gameness or new gameness of Ajira this is the absolute right place to do it. As for the promo itself and it's contents, I think we ought to have a new post over at TLC to discuss it complete with warnings that its content will indeed be discussed there.
I for one am attempting to avoid the contents of the long promo. It's not that I think it's particularly spoilery, but I consider ABC promos as things that can a) cause me to unduly speculate thereby making me unsatisfied with the actual story TPTB devise because I become so enamored of the ones from my own mind and/or b) revealing things that I just don't want to see until they air even including what characters will in fact be participating this season.
In summary, I would really like it if we could create a place to discuss the promo for those that want to, but that can be easily avoided by those of us who do not want to.
I'm totally with you, Memphish. I emailed both the admins of lostargs and Dennis for TLC suggesting that Ajira be discussed here and the promo over at TLC with a caveat for those who don't want to discuss promos. We'll see what they say. Aren't you an admin on one of the blogs?
I can admin here, but not there. Hopefully we'll get a new post there and then we can see what happens with Ajira here.
I agree with both of you. I've been trying really hard since the promo came out not to offend anyone. But I'll say something vague and then someone else will comment with more content and vise versa. And it sometimes goes to far without meaning too.
Here's Dennis' reply:
"LostARGs is for talking about the ARG, and TLC is for talking about the show.
I put a post on TLC for the Lost Season 5 Promos, where people can talk freely about it in that post only.
Dennis"
So I guess we should go over to TLC and comment in this post:
Friday, October 23, 2008: New Season 5 Trailer.
See ya there for those that want to discuss any Season 5 promos!
Roger that! :-D
FWIW: There's a new Ajira Airways Facebook group. "Dan Bronson" is accepting applications for moderators. You're supposed to submit a "resume" and Ms. Paik (the financier of the Airlines) will choose a new moderator.
Just letting you know.
I gave up on the ARG a while ago, but I got the email about the dossiers being available and I'm a sometimes-cheater and my job is reasearch assistant in the Human Interaction Analysis program.
I don't know what to think about Ajira, it does seem more promotional than ARGish at this point. I'm not hlding my breath for anythiong ARGish, but I'll keep an open mind on it. Now to go watch the promo so I can joint the discussion at TLC.
I've just had an email about the Dharma Special Access, with a new website to look at.
It sort of puts the last nail in the coffin of the DWY ARG I'm afraid and ties the Dharma Special Access firmly into the promo for series 5.
I don't think I'll post it ar LostARGS, but it should definitely be published over at TLC.
The video the DSA email links to sort of explains what has gone on, so for possibly the final time for DharmaWantsYou
NEW POST !
I noticed some new things with the www.ajiraairways.com site. the ABC copyright stuff is gone, well hidden now. There used to be a white bar on the bottom of the page that said copyright ABC Inc. the TOS and there was one other thing there that I now don't remember. It is now below the normal page size so you have to view full screen to see it. They also added the icon that goes in your web bar on top that is the A from ajira. Just some small changes I noticed.
Good job with noticing the changes, Lisa.... that's why you're the CEO... LOL!
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