The Ajira Airways website is now open for business! You can try to book a flight, check out some of the exciting Ajira Adventures, or learn more about Ajira Airways.
You can also print a sample boarding pass, and there's a hidden surprise which you can find by following these origami instructions. BTW, Here is an enhanced version of the boarding pass, which highlights the Dharma symbols.The site also features an area where you can book a flight to the following locations: Bangkok, Los Angeles, Wellington, Portland, Mexico City, Seoul, Baghdad, Rome, Tustin, Ames, Santa Monica, New York, Sydney, Guam, and Tokyo. If you followed Find 815, you may recognize some of these cities as places Oceanic Airlines flew to as well as locations where Oceanic Airlines billboards showed up.
Lisa e-emailed us with this screen cap. from the video on the site.
If you find anything else interesting, let us know in the comments!UPDATE: Hidden in the source code of each page are some unusual comments (some of which need to be HEX decoded):
- For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
- So off they started about Irish sport and shoneen games the like of lawn tennis and about Hurley and putting the stone and racy of the soil and building up a nation once again and all of that.
- PINEAPPLES IN HAWAII
- SUPERSONIC IS COMMERCIAL THIRTY TILL MERIDIAN
- WHERE AMERICA'S DAY BEGINS.
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1 – 200 of 227 Newer› Newest»such a neat site, I just wish there was a contact email for them or something else to do on the site. I won't let you book a flight, it says there all booked. :-(
I added the screen cap you mailed to the post Lisa. Good work!
notice the date on the photo screen cap ? it says 1/21/09
If you read the scrolling message area one of the portions says Avoid a new Pacific location trouble area. Also, the "Destiny Calls" adventures were all posted by someone called Antonio B. McCutcheon.
I wonder if they'll eventually release a promotional code to go in that one box that will let you 'book a flight'.
Looking at the boarding pass, there are little pieces of the Dharma symbol as well as some other symbols that look like the ones that were on the countdown clock in the Swan hatch. Maybe they will be code for the promotional code?
I'm betting they all come together when you make the origami ball. Dennis is working on that, I suck at origami so I'll wait for someone with superior folding skills to hash it out!
Okay according to Lostpedia, the symbols are S W DA A and the "stick" modifies the previous word.
If you choose that Destination Destiny on January 21st. One of your flight choices is 316 like in the screencap above.
The only thing I see when folding the boarding pass into a BALL is the the word GUM - I guess as in GUM BALL?
Here is an enhanced version of the boarding pass so you can see the Dharma/Clock symbols better: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/SVkJhSHrelI/AAAAAAAAKJs/GUrBFBfuWlE/s1600-h/enhanced_boardpass.jpg
It's been so long since I've posted anything I forgot my password! Sorry about the anonymous comment in the previous thread. I tried the origami and I stink at it.
I am guessing the Darlton will give us a promotional code early this week as part of their Dharma Special Access e-mail. Or maybe in the videos.
there are weird things in the source code. On the Destiny page it says PINEAPPLES IN HAWAII on the home page it has something that says HEX 46 6f 72 20 47 6f 64 20 73 6f 20 6c 6f 76 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 77 6f 72 6c
64 20 74 68 61 74 20 68 65 20 67 61 76 65 20 68 69 73 20 6f 6e 65 20 61 6e 64 20
6f 6e 6c 79 20 53 6f 6e 2c 20 74 68 61 74 20 77 68 6f 65 76 65 72 20 62 65 6c 69
65 76 65 73 20 69 6e 20 68 69 6d 20 73 68 61 6c 6c 20 6e 6f 74 20 70 65 72 69 73
68 20 62 75 74 20 68 61 76 65 20 65 74 65 72 6e 61 6c 20 6c 69 66 65 2e
the adventures page says... SUPERSONIC IS COMMERCIAL THIRTY TILL MERIDIAN
-->
the about page says... WHERE AMERICA'S DAY BEGINS.
-->
OOOOOHHH!!!
In the source code of the Flights page is the following code:
HEX 53 6f 20 6f 66 66 20 74 68 65 79 20 73 74 61 72 74 65 64 20 61 62 6f 75 74
20 49 72 69 73 68 20 73 70 6f 72 74 20 61 6e 64 20 73 68 6f 6e 65 65 6e 20 67 61
6d 65 73 20 74 68 65 20 6c 69 6b 65 20 6f 66 20 6c 61 77 6e 20 74 65 6e 6e 69 73
20 61 6e 64 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 68 75 72 6c 65 79 20 61 6e 64 20 70 75 74 74 69
6e 67 20 74 68 65 20 73 74 6f 6e 65 20 61 6e 64 20 72 61 63 79 20 6f 66 20 74 68
65 20 73 6f 69 6c 20 61 6e 64 20 62 75 69 6c 64 69 6e 67 20 75 70 20 61 20 6e 61
74 69 6f 6e 20 6f 6e 63 65 20 61 67 61 69 6e 20 61 6e 64 20 61 6c 6c 20 6f 66 20
74 68 61 74 2e
Which translates to:
So off they started about Irish sport and shoneen games the like of lawn tennis and about hurley and putting the stone and racy of the soil and building up a nation once again and all of that.
so what does this one mean Dennis ? its on the home page 46 6f 72 20 47 6f 64 20 73 6f 20 6c 6f 76 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 77 6f 72 6c
64 20 74 68 61 74 20 68 65 20 67 61 76 65 20 68 69 73 20 6f 6e 65 20 61 6e 64 20
6f 6e 6c 79 20 53 6f 6e 2c 20 74 68 61 74 20 77 68 6f 65 76 65 72 20 62 65 6c 69
65 76 65 73 20 69 6e 20 68 69 6d 20 73 68 61 6c 6c 20 6e 6f 74 20 70 65 72 69 73
68 20 62 75 74 20 68 61 76 65 20 65 74 65 72 6e 61 6c 20 6c 69 66 65 2e
and how the hell did you figure that out Dennis ?
That sounds like it could be from Ulysses.
Where America;s day begins.... Guam? Or the new ABC morning news slogan :-)
OK... all the pages have hidden code:
MAIN:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
FLIGHTS:
So off they started about Irish sport and shoneen games the like of lawn tennis and about hurley and putting the stone and racy of the soil and building up a nation once again and all of that.
DESTINATIONS:
PINEAPPLES IN HAWAII
ADVENTURES:
SUPERSONIC IS COMMERCIAL THIRTY TILL MERIDIAN
ABOUT US:
WHERE AMERICA'S DAY BEGINS.
Supersonic is commercial thirty till meridian stands out as nonsensical. . .is it an anagram?
Lisa,
Translates to
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Lisa, it's ARG 101... always check the source code :)
Here's a good HEX translator for future reference: http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/
John 3:16
Flight 316
Oh I did, check the couple of posts up from yours. I posted all the source codes too. I just didn't know how to translate the hex codes. Thanks for the web sites, I will put it with my anagram web site.
This is definitely a good morning! LOL
Something to explore again!
Thanks for the hidden codes, Dennis. One of those is the quote Darlton gave from Ulysses in the DSA. Everything ties together with those two! LOL
There's probably a million things to notice on the site: The city temperatures all have different minutes (besides the obvious hours). Don't know what that means. The mystery destinations: Polar, Island, Shark swimming, Excavation: Ruins are all tied into the mythology of the show.
Sorry, double posting. Let me start over.
When you google that passage, you get a reference to a passage from "Inauthentic" by Vincent John Cheng. . .
Probably a coincidence. . .but wasn't Cheng our worm hole guy?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH, this is so exciting!!! Been waiting for something like this for a long time!!
Good job, Lisa, dennis, and all those working on it!
Hey all.
GUM is the airport code for Guam, which you can select in the Book a Flight. And it's what you'll see in the origami when folded correctly. I found out it has to be printed right too. I had to download the boarding pass and print it separate so the dashed line matches up with the one in the instructions.
Also: SUPERSONIC IS COMMERCIAL THIRTY TILL MERIDIAN...
Translates to 11:30, thirty minutes to Meridian, or noon. You can select this as flight 316 at 11:30am. I'm guessing the rest means commercial flight?
Can't figure out how many passengers and kids to try and book a flight. Or what the promo code would be.
Interesting tidbit, there is no weather report for Guam.
I'm guessing that promo code will be given in a DSA?
Neumox, I noticed that about the weather report too.
I wonder if passengers and kids might refer to the O6. Maybe Aaron and Sun's baby count as kids, while the rest would be adults? Regardless it still says all flights are booked no matter what you enter.
Maybe we select leaving from Guam, Destination Destiny, Flight 316 on January 21. . .with 5 adults and 2 children. . .unless we're supposed to count Locke, Des, Penny, and Lapidus. . .
But I'm betting we need that promotion code.
Ange said...
If you read the scrolling message area one of the portions says Avoid a new Pacific location trouble area. Also, the "Destiny Calls" adventures were all posted by someone called Antonio B. McCutcheon.
OMG, coincidence or fate that I just changed my myspace page to McCutcheons! LOL!
Looking at the source codes, everything except the HEX seems to point to Guam. But I can't connect pineapples in Hawaii to mean Guam, so I'm wondering if there's a Hawaiian word for pineapple? Maybe that's the promo code? I'll see if I can check with my Hawaiian friend.
We had to send in our e-mails to ajira airways, so maybe they'll e-mail us a promotion code?
This is already more fun than DWY!
Incidentally there are 55557 anagrams for Antonio B. McCutcheon
is that all ?? lol
Well, pineapple in Hawaiian is Hala Kahiki... perhaps that will be the promo code? Still unsure of the passengers and kids. I'm trying various combos, but no luck at all yet.
I signed up for the email on the Ajira website and haven't received anything yet. If it's like the ARG ones it could be tomorrow. LOL
How do you sign up for the email on the Ajira website. . .I'm overlooking that link I think.
Wow! Lisa and Eugene, you guys were on the ball this morning! Thanks Dennis for the hard work you do!
xxoo
Look at the times on the weather bulletin. . .shouldn't they have all the same minutes?
Like in Tustin it's 11:33, and in LA it's 11:30.
I could have sworn California was all in the same time zone. And if you look at Iowa - it's 1:31.
Time is askew at Ajira airways. . .does it mean anything?
@lost2010
The email updates from Ajira Airlines website was available up until the site was updated today.
I don't know if you can sign up for those anymore, but I'm betting that if you get the Darlton DSA updates, they'll have something in there for us.
Anyways, any emails will surely get posted here or DarkUFO as they come out.
@neumox- thanks.
Cool stuff. Glad you all have something to play with now. This is about the same time Find815 launched last year.
BTW, at least 1 TV blogger has gotten a screener with the first 2 episodes of S5 so look for the spoilers to mount.
I hope this keeps me occupied for the next 3 weeks and away from the spoilers. I saw one of the commercials on ABC the other night and I already know more than I want to.
"So off they started about Irish sport and shoneen games the like of the lawn tennis and about hurley and putting the stone and racy of the soil and building up a nation once again and all of that."
That is a passage of Ulysses by James Joyce.
Anyone seen this DSA?
http://thelaverytory.blogspot.com/2008/12/joyces-ulysses.html
I will go on with research.
Daniel
Just got the DSA email!
password: emal
Going to go check it out now!
It seems to me that all this has been planned: The break of the Dharma Recruitment, DSA and now this. Although the Ajira site is not hosted on the usual ARG servers, I am definitely sure this is the continuation of the ARG.
neumox - that password is not working?!! (for me anyway)
xxoo
Just got my email, so password is correct. Guess I'll clear my cache and try again!
xxoo
Is anyone else worried that the password this week is emal - aka LAME backwards? :)
It's the continuation of answers to the questions people sent in. Guess I shoulda sent in a screenshot of the email. Who do I send it to? Dennis?
Thanks in advance from a newbie, but longtime lurker since when the DWY ARG started. It was so lame!
Melissa, thought the same thing about the password.
The Ajira site is lame now as everyone is accessing it at the moment since it has been promoted in the new DSA video...
I got in, and now I'm caught up...
xxoo
@ neumox, you can send anything to the e-mail address on the main page. Dennis, Zort, myself, or sometimes all three of us will get back to you and/or post what you send :D.
The part ruins on the adventures page says something about Polynesian islands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesia
A hint to the island's position?
2 funny things in the e-mail. First "no DUIs". I guess they've had enough of those. Second, password = emal, which I assume translates to lame. Darlton always look a bit sheepish in these videos and "lame" seems a bit self - deprecating.
Hey FYI Losties if you remember two posts ago Anne mentioned that her question may be read by Damon and Carlton. Well, I am watching the video now, and her question is the second one they answer. Well done Anne, glad you got in!
Ha, ha - I wondered if that was our Anne! Glad to hear YOU'RE not a "downer," Anne! :)
Hey! Look what I missed when I'm fooling around with other stuff! Gonna go read all your posts now. Welcome back Eugene! :-D
Ohboyohboyohboy!
It's a slow day at work. So I fooled around with the Origami instructions and got those to work. But I don't think I have the boarding pass sized right. It did inflate though.
Thanks, Capcom. After DWY got boring and the holidays got closer I became a bit too busy to check in. I hope I can keep up now!
Another clue pointing to Guam:
On the boarding pass 13 29 02N appears. If you look that up on a map you find that the coordinates are almost on the western coast of Guam.
capcom - you summed up my feelings exactly! Oh boy!
Someone called at work today just as I was printing out my boarding pass and asked if I had time to discuss something. I was thinking, "No, you fool! I'm printing out my fake boarding pass for a pretend airline!" :)
If you take both sets of numbers on the boarding pass:
144 47 50E
13 29 02N
and google map it, it's smack dab in the middle of an airport in Guam.
Hey look at THIS. It's a place called Gådao's Cave in Guam which is one of many places with petroglyphs. Some of these look awfully familiar.
Or...does anyone have a barcode scanner? There is a barcode on the boarding pass, which I am too inept to fold and or apply to the instructions at all. Has anyone figured out how large to print the thing to get it to apply to full sheet of paper instructions?
it has the numbers on the bar code. 4,8, 15,16, 23, 42
The numbers 112 114 111 109 111 off the sky club membership card translate to:
PROMO
You guys are doing great!
Ange, is your avi a pic of the view outside your window? Hope things are warming up a bit.
Capcom: Yes, but not from today. That was Dec 13th after the big ice storm of the century.
As for the promo code, I do think that Ajira themselves will e-mail it to us this week sometime. I'm also sure someone will hack the site and find out exactly when each mail is heading out.
Wow So much interesting stuff!
I'm trying to figure it all out!
DSA has turned out to be pretty neat, though. Better than DWY, anyway!
Don't mind me I just forgot to check the email box.....
Hi MadAriad!
Did anyone do the origami? It looks like the basic "water bomb" or air pillow type fold.
I've got the stuff printed and hopefully will have a free minute to do it soon....
I did the origami - it was fun, and like others have said, it creates a "ball" that when you look in the hole reveals GUM
I'm figuring that the flight selection is "Destination Destiny" Departing from Guam 1/21/09 on Flight 316. No sure on the arrival, passenger numbers, or code? If it's people who have left the Island, it would be Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun, Frank, Desmond, Locke, and Ben (9). Children would be Aaron, and maybe Ji Yeon(2?).
Any other details to throw in?
If you don't want to go through all the potential paper cuts and folding frustration, they have a cap of the finished "ball" at Dark UFO.
Walt?
Good call on Walt!
LOL, thanks Crazy and Ange. :-)
Of all days to be out all day! :( I've got a lot of catching up to do tonight! You guys, as usual are awesome.
Anyone book a flight yet?
Ok...reading through various posts and clues from a number of sites, it seems that to book a flight you need to pick the following:
DESTINATION DESTINY radio button
TO GUAM (GUM from origami)
DEPARTING 01/21/2009
FLIGHT 316 - 11:30AM
PROMO CODE 112 114 111 109 111 (from credit card)
Still unknown or undetermined - FROM location and the number of ADULTS and CHILDREN.
The number of Children has to be 2 - Aaron and Walt. Adults could be 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 (Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Locke are definate...add Des, Frank, Ben and a possible Penny?)
The FROM could be any listed but the boarding pass shows LAX as the departure point...
...but none of the above in any combo works for me. Anyone else have any luck?
I was thinking the "Pineapples in Hawaii" thing had to do with the promo code for booking a flight. I've got nothing so far except that the spiral of a pineapple uses fibonacci numbers - no idea if that has anything to do with it or not.
I'm thinking Guam is the "From" location. Some of the locations listed in the "Weather Reports" correspond to characters:
Seoul - Sun/Jin
Portland - Mittelos (Alpert/Ethan)
LA - Jack
Tustin - Locke
Ames - Kate
New York - Michael
Sydney - Claire
Baghdad - Sayid
Good thinking Techno, I think that you're on to getting the whole picture of what is needed.
Erm, and MadAriad and Crazy. :-) Must remember to refresh before I post.
Here are the cities sorted by time with Temp:
Bangkok 71 1:33 AM
Seoul 32 4:36 AM
Portland 21 11:26 AM
LA 73 11:30 AM
SM,CA 71 11:31 AM
Tustin 70 11:33 AM
Ames 2 1:31 PM
Mex City 77 1:32 PM
NYC 30 2:33 PM
Tokyo 32 4:34 PM
Sydney 77 6:39 PM
Rome 72 8:28 PM
Well NZ 70 8:34 PM
Baghdad 37 10:25 PM
Anyone think this is noteworthy, or has other meaning? Also, why are all of the temps in Farenheit, when most countries outside the US use Celsius? Not to mention the time anomalies, etc.
Thanks for posting the times CBJ! Those different minutes really stood out to me. Usually, minutes are the same worldwide...just the hours change. So we must be dealing with the different time line thing?
Sorry, Crazy...missed your comment on Ji Yeon! So a possible 3 children...
And WOW! Thanks for posting all the location times and temps! I didn't have the patience to capture all that!
When talking about minutes, there are a few similarities in the minute:
:x0 - LA
:x1 - Santa Monica, Ames
:x2 - Mexico City
:x3 - Thailand, Tustin, NYC
:x4 - Tokyo, Wellington
:x5 - Baghdad
:x6 - Seoul, Portland
:x7 -
:x8 - Rome
:x9 - Sydney
There are also several cities with matching temps:
Seoul, Tokyo - 32
Tustin, Wellington - 70
Bangkok, Santa Monica - 71
Mexico City, Sydney - 77
This leaves Portland, LA, Ames, NYC, Rome, and Baghdad. All of these cities are from the mythology except Rome.
maven
I know what you mean about being out all day. I looked in early today. But didn't get a chance to check back in until around 6:30 read the first 68 posts and had to go out again. Now have caught up on the last 20.
Everybody's doing a great job finding the clues. I was just saying yesterday I didn't think Ajira was an ARG guess I spoke to soon.
Good to see everyone coming back around again and working hard together.
here is the scrolling words on the web page. I'm thinking they might be some clues...
Ajira introduces new destinations for island hoppers and arctic
adventurers. News - South Pacific Triangle : pilots and sailors
avoid a new Pacific location trouble area. News - Get Lost
anywhere in the world Ajira Airways introduces "Destination :
Destiny" News - Discover Down Under : The Australian Outback
is home to all sorts of characters, ancient secrets and
hopping wallabies - Watch Out! Welcome to AjiraAirways.com
Considering Rome is the odd city out, and also taking into account that Rome's temp (72) and time of 8:28 - 72+8+28 = 108
Something I just thought of - what about the time's in military?
Lisa: Thanks for getting those scrolling words! All of those things somehow relate to the show and it's mythology. The warning to Pilots and Sailors has to relate to the island's influence on navigational tools.
Everyone is doing such a great job listing and summarizing stuff.
Has anyone drawn the parallel between Antonio B. MacCutcheon, and MacCutheon Whiskey preferred by Charles Widmore and Christian Shephard?
I have one thought on all of this before bed.
The guy from the video, holding the sign w/ 316 on it, looks to me like someone who would be meeting you at your destination. I think the destination is definitely Guam because when you do the origami and just look into the box, w/o putting your eye up to it, you see the lat. and long. for Guam as well as To Destination. The date on the frame from the video w/ the guy w/ the sign is dated Jan. 21, 2009. I am going on a hunch that the departure point is from Los Angeles because 316 is at 11:30 and it says that the time in L.A. is 11:30. That being said I looked into actual flights from L.A. to Guam and it takes about 48 hours. Maybe this means that the departure date is 2 days prior to the 21st, the 19th or even 20th, when filling out the information for booking a flight.
I hope this is helpful.
The pin the flight attendant is wearing on the homepage looks like a snake swallowing it's tail.
Similar to the one Ms. Hawking was wearing.
And the symbol on her scarf resembles that of The Orchid, or of Paik Heavy Industries...
"Has anyone drawn the parallel between Antonio B. MacCutcheon, and MacCutheon Whiskey preferred by Charles Widmore and Christian Shephard?"
Maybe this was mentioned before, but on the sky club membership card, the name is for an E H MacCutcheon also.
There are screen shots of the boarding pass on Dark's showing the hieroglyphic symbols from the countdown clock! Cool!
Good call on the flight information. So, it should be
Destination Destiny
Departing from: LA, CA
Arriving: Guam
Date: 1/19 or 1/20/09
Promo 112 114 111 109 111
Does this seem right? Also, are we to take into account that the events of LOST are taking place in 2007?
It's late and everybody's gone now but I seen in the comments and at the Ajira site it says South Pacific triangle. Which if I remember correctly Guam is in. I'd have to find my notes to be sure but I often wondered if they were in the South Pacific triangle.
What do we all think the destination of Guam is all about? Is there a portal there to get to the island?
The blurb on the Destination Destiny section says: "NOT SURE WHERE TO GO? Get lost in the wild wonder of the world and let time and space have no consequence. For $87 you’ll be whisked away to an unknown fateful destination of your destiny. China to Chicago, step aboard the grandest grab bag around. Upon arrival a brave new world will unfold right before your eyes. Pack light and prepare for the adventure of a lifetime as you experience the sensational world around us - only with Ajira Airlines’ DESTINATION: DESTINY."
I gather the $87 is 8+7=15. The mention of time and space alludes to what is going on with the island. I guess the "grandest grab bag" refers to taking your chances of where you'll end up. And why would you have to pack light?
So why does the destination destiny option even have an arrival location? Shouldn't they leave that out if they're picking the destination? I would think it would only have a departure location.
Also the table setting in the Book a Flight section looks like there's a vase of red anthuriums plants.
Hope it's ok just to jump in here . . . first time poster.
I noticed that the Sky Club card had a reflection that does not appear correct. and that the use of 'diamonds' was curious. So, if the numbers read PROMO maybe something else in the image relates.
Also, maybe you only put in "To: Guam".
I read the anagram from this week's e-mail as "male"
Hey, Lottery Ticket, welcome to TLC!
What is it about the reflection on the card that looks odd? I guess diamonds connote wealth...and that's what you need to book a flight on Ajira.
Where have I seen the stewardess' pin before? On Mrs. Hawking?
Geez, I wished I had checked here first before staring at the ajira site forever to get all the cities/temp/times and the scrolling words! LOL! live and learn...
I agree you should leave the "to" blank when booking a flight if you're taking advantage of the Destination: Destiny promo price of $87.. they choose your destination?
I definitely noticed the McCutcheon whisky link to the name on the credit card! I seem to remember Widmore telling Desmond that it was an Admiral McCutcheon... will have to look that up. And I think it's fate and not coincidence that I just changed my myspace theme to McCutcheon's the other day! lol!
Underneath the sky club card it says:
"THE SKY’S YOUR LIMIT!
Earn miles to travel in style with the luxury-enhanced Ajira Airways Sky Club credit card. The more you spend, the more miles you’ll bank towards globetrotting escapades. Redemption provides you a solo seat or a chance to charter your own personal plane. Your destiny awaits."
So, do we think the O6 will be taking solo flights or all of them come together on a charter? I love the way it says, "Redemtion provides you with..." lol, redemption a theme of the show:)
Welcome to all the new ppl showing up here at lostargs!
I didn't plan it this time, but I can't tell you how happy I am that I was comment #108!!! (I'm easily amused:)
Anything to keep you happy, BS! LOL
The use of the word "redemption" is strange in the context of the sentence, but is definitely a theme in the show! I don't know if they have to charter a plane individually. Ben is stressing that they all have to get back together. Maybe they can all pool their Sky Miles? Doesn't Jack have a lot build up by now that he can transfer from Oceanic? LOL
btw, I can't get "South Pacific triangle" to come up in a Wiki search.
maven, I'm not sure how I feel about being called BS... LOL!
Maybe they all have to go back together, but they have to meet at one location to do that? Yeah, I bet Jack has enough miles built up, but they are Oceanic miles and not Ajira miles.. maybe they can transfer them:)
oooh this is so much fun but I seriously need to sleep.
Good night and see you all in the morning! (don't figure out too much while I'm away!)
And Welcome to the first-time posters!
Sorry about that BS, BS! After I posted it I thought: "Oh no! That doesn't look good!"
I asked earlier: What is up with Guam? Why is that the destination? Could there be a portal there to get them back to the island?
good-night, MadAdriad!!
maven, I have no idea what's up with Guam! When I think of Guam, I think of a place where American troops are or a military base. Maybe tomorrow I'll research Guam more. I like the link Ange gave some posts ago, too!
I'm getting tired...
Happy Birthday to Memphish!
There is a smaller number below the big 112 114 111 109 111. Can anyone identify it? Is it 149?
149 corresponds to "ò" in an ascii table. That doesn't fit to "promo".
Happy, happy Birthday Memphish!!!
xxoo
Thanks for the birthday wishes!
Happy Birthday Memphish, I hope it's a wonderful day for you.
Since you mentioned it BS, Here is the link I posted earlier with some very familiar looking petroglyphs in Guam.
Hey Locos. Long time, no post. Was checking to see if anything interesting was going on and it looks like I've missed alot. Going to read the posts and maybe put my 2 cents in.
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!
Happy Birthday memphish!
maven
I posted last night that I thought that the pin the attendant was wearing on the homepage looked similar to Ms. Hawkings, a snake swallowing it's tail. There's a name for it but I can't remember what it is.
Black Swan
Do a search on The Dragon's Triangle which is what the South Pacific Triangle is called you should find somethings. Guam is part of the Dragon's Triangle.
I've often wondered if the island was in the Dragon's Triangle. Here's a couple of links if you're interested.
link
link
And it is pretty cool you just changed your myspace to McCutcheon.
Ange
Thanks for your link to Guam.
"The Antonio B. (A.B.) Won Pat International Airport Authority, Guam (GIAA/Authority) is an autonomous instrumentality of the Government of Guam and is the airport operator licensed under the Federal Aviation Administration. " from here
just a connection with Antonio B. MacCutcheon and Guam
Woo Hoo!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEMPHISH!
Happy Birthday, Memphish!!!!
sayid'sgirl, thanks for those links!!
ange, thanks for re-posting that link. It kind of reminds me of things I found researching ancient Aborigine lore in Australia!
lottery ticket (love that name.. did you win?) that's an interesting find! Wish the name McCutcheon showed up on the airport website!
Happy Birthday Memphish!!!! *<|:o)
Same as my mother, BTW.
You're welcome Black Swan.
I was obsessed back during the TLE days with the Dragon's Triangle thinking when they turned back to go to Fiji they turned the wrong way. I know there's no reason for that, but if the did they would end up in the Dragon's Triangle.
I printed out maps and everything. I pretty much let it go until Find815 and the plane being in the Sunda Trench. Of course it's a fake wreckage and the real wreck is supposedly near Fiji. But I could help think they got lost in the triangle and ended up in the Sunda Trench.
Now the fact that the South Pacific Triangle has been mentioned and Guam is a part of the triangle makes me giddy. I'm sure it won't mean anything but it's cool just the same.
Sorry for the long post. But I'm giddy. lol
Anyone make progress on booking a flight?
Morning all:
Sorry I didn't notice you posted something about the stweardess' pin, SayidsGirl. The name of Mrs. Hawking's pin was the ouroboros (a circular serpent eating it's tail). I guess they're similar in that it's almost like infinity.
I don't blame your giddyness either Sayid'sGirl. With Guam being in the Dragon's Triangle and with the warning to Pilots and Sailors on Ajira, I'm thinking that everyone is meeting up in Guam to enter some kind of portal or maybe an off-island DI station to get back to the island.
maven
It's ok when we get everyone posting at once it's easy to miss some posts. Thanks for the name ouroboros the pin not a circle but it does look like a serpent eating it's tail. Maybe this one's lost in time that's why it's in a knot. lol
I'm with you. I think there's some kind of portal dare I say wormhole (sorry Kyle) in Guam.
Has anyone come up with anything on the hidden messages? Pineapples in Hawaii or Where America Starts it's day?
I was thinking - where America starts its day would be on the East Coast, right? That's where the earliest time zone would be. So maybe the departure is New York instead of LA?
Oh, and happy birthday, memphish!
Here's something interesting I noticed about the diamonds next to the Sky Club card.
There are 8 that are sparkling and 3 plain others. I'm wondering if this could mean 8 Adults and 3 children.
8 Adults: Sun, Sayid, Kate, Hurley, Jack, Desmond, Frank, Ben
3 Children: Walt, Aaron, Ji Yeon
I know, there are nine adults including Locke, but remember Locke is dead, so maybe they'll check him as baggage? LOL
Melissa_Lossa
Guam's motto is "Where America Starts it's day" and I still think perhaps Pineapples in Hawaii might mean the Hawaiian word for pineapple: Hala-Kahiki
Melissa: I think "Where America Starts it's Day" is the motto from Guam.
Ah, thanks neumox.
That's great research, sayid'sgirl!! I love it!
Melissa_Lossa, that's an interesting idea!
I still wonder, though, that we need something to put in the promotional code area... idk. Lisa was saying to remember to watch the Lost replay on Jan. 14th because we may get a clue to Ajira like we did for find 815.
neumox, maybe Hala-Kahiki is what we put in the Promotional Code to get a flight? (interesting observations about the diamonds)
That's what I was just thinking, Black Swan - that seems to be the only clue that doesn't fit anywhere yet.
How about this... Maybe if the flight goes from LA to Guam, there would have to be a stopover, and Hawaii is one. Pick up some "Pineapples in Hawaii"??
Thanks Sayid'sgirl for the Dragon Triangle links, very intriguing stuff. That area reminds me of the pendulum/star area from the ABC promos. This all gets me so excited for the start of season five.
I've tried putting the hawaiian for pineapple in as a promo code, but so far it hasn't done anything.
hmmmm
I still feel that they will be leaving from Los Angeles (and not just because I live there). That's where we last saw Ben, Jack, Locke, Kate/Aaron, Hurley(is nearby) and Sayid with with Hurley. It would be easy for Sun to meet up with them.
Thanks for the BSG link, ML, but I'm awaiting the S4 DVDs...so don't tell me anything! LOL
Oh, crud - sorry, maven! Here's a revised post:
Oh, and for those of you who are BSG fans - I just saw a promo for youwillknowthetruth.com. It's an official site with possible clues to the new season. No major spoilers; in fact, they're doing a good job of blurring and/or bleeping out spoilery info. It's more of a tease.
It seems to have been up for a couple of weeks, so maybe I'm the last to know, but it's kind of cool.
Sayidsgirl, the pacific Triangle might be in/near one of the Vile Vortices maybe, I'll check the map.
I think that the earliest a.m. for America is in Guam too. That's interesting about their motto! I just heard about the timezone thing from military friends.
Great thinking on the stars/passengers Neumox. LOL Locke in the baggage compartment. If they cremated him, they could carry him on. :o)
Lost2010's a big BSG fan! Don't know how she feels about spoilers for that though.
Great sleuthing everyone!
Hi Everyone....
Been lurking and watching this...dont' have much time to play. I do have a barcode scanner though...and this is what the barcode on the fake boarding pass reads
048151623426
Recognize most of them of course...maybe the promo code? Don't have time to try.
Sorry if someone has already done this. :D
capcom
That would be really cool if it was.
Not sure if anyone has done this yet, but I mapped all the Airport Codes from the Boarding Pass into a Google map.
You can see it here: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112953797824103247089.00045f471e46f1b9abd39&ll=15.623037,-173.671875&spn=155.385851,316.40625&z=2
the promo code has got to be the numbers on the sky card shown on the page because when you put them in a decoder, they say Promo. Don't you think ??
So it appears the bar code is the numbers, followed by 6 - as in Oceanic 6
Been watching this and thought I might add my two cents.
By most airlines Walt would be considered an adult (over 13), also I don't know if any of the "children" except Aaron (Walt included) would need to go back to the island. Ben said that Jack had to get his people back; Sun, Sayid, Hurley, Kate and Aaron. Plus Ben and himself that makes 6 adults 1 child. Although I still can't book a flight.
Brian
I wasn't sure if Walt would have to go back either. But why did Locke visit him if he didn't want him to go back? I agree that Walt would be considered an adult on an airline.
In the OGR section in the Summary Of Hidden Code On Ajira Site post at DarkUFO's Keeping Pace had an interesting post. He/She says the language on the sign the guy in the airport is holding is Devanagari and says John. He/She also gives this link.
wiki
Has this already been posted?
Oh and Keeping Pace also said the first result they got googling emal was home. Interesting.
Yeah, the barcode is the numbers with the 0 in front and 6 at the end... you know those puzzles, say what you see? I'm no good at those.. lol. I see THE numbers between the O6? The O6 surround THE numbers? idk...
melissalossa - Any hints to the final cylon on that site. . .I don't mind spoilers for BSG.
8 and 3 makes sense to me. Leave from Guam - destination destiny. . .
And the hawaiian translation of pineapples fits well with the type clues they gave us. . .although
"pineapples in hawaii" is ripe with anagrams too though - you can get 'epiphanies','hippies', 'alias', 'seaplane'. . . . .I'll keep scanning the list and see if I can get all the words to come out right. . .
Dennis, I looked at your map (nice!), but which destination do you mean that shows in the upper part of lower Michigan? I marked it with an arrow
That's the Gaylord Regional Airport (GLR), in Gaylord, MI.
It's one of the two airports on the Bording Pass that's NOT on the list of flight destinations. (The other is PEK - Bejing, China)
I don't know that much can be made of the destination airport codes, since there is a lot of ambiguity in some of the selections. New York for example has 3 major airports, and Tustin, CA doesn't have any (Santa Ana (SNA) is the closest commercial airport).
Plus, some of the airports are very small regional airports, like BWU in Sydney, Australia. The main Sydney airport is the Kingsford Smith International Airport (SYD), which is only 15 miles away.
Anyways, here's the list of airports:
Only on Boarding Pass
GLR: Gaylord, MI
PEK: Bejing, China
On Boarding Pass and Flight Destinations
GUM: Guam
LAX: Los Angeles, CA
GMP: Seoul, South Korea
BWU: Sydney, Australia
HND: Tokyo, Japan
Only on Flight Destinations
AMW: Ames, IA
SDA: Baghdad, Iraq
BKK: Bangkok, Thailand
MEX: Mexico City, Mexico
???: New York, NY (LGA?, JFK?, EWR?)
PDX: Portland, OR
FCO: Rome, Italy
SMO: Santa Monica, CA
???: Tustin, CA (SNA?)
WLG: Wellington, New Zealand
Wow, so much great info that you all are figuring out! Did you try that promo number Lisa? I bet that Walt would be an adult too.
Sayidsgirl, here is a link to a vortices map, is the Devil's Triangle where you found the Pacific Triangle (right below Japan)?
http://www.deepinfo.com/WorldGrid.htm
OK, I updated the map with the destinations of the Flights page as well. I color-coded the pins:
BLUE: On Boarding Pass only
RED: Flight Destinations only
PURPLE: On Both Lists
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112953797824103247089.00045f471e46f1b9abd39&ll=-4.915833,147.304688&spn=156.18387,316.40625&z=2
You da man, Dennis! Tx!
Hey you guys! I just got this result for an anagram of "supersonic is commercial": Solipsism Occurrence Aim
And here's a dictionary definition of solipsism:
: a theory holding that the self can know nothing but its own modifications and that the self is the only existent thing ; also : extreme egocentrism
That's interesting.
Also got A Microcosmic Siren Pulse
Don't blame me for saying this, but I do not think it is about an anagram. There are just too many possibilities.
You're probably right, I'm just goofing off. Some of the anagrams are pretty funny (like "A Circumcises Miles Porno", and "A Microscopic Miles Nurse")
Link
Article about a return to supersonic commercial flights circa 2015.
Thanks for that explanation (and new map), dennis. I didn't even know Gaylord, Michigan had an airport, because it's a small town. Every time we drive up north, we pass Gaylord and Grayling and I always get the two mixed up and they are close together. BUT, this is interesting to note about Grayling:
Nearby Camp Grayling (donated by Rasmus Hanson) is the nation's largest National Guard training site and the largest military installation east of the Mississippi River. 147,000 acres (595 km²) are used for year-round training conducted by the U.S. National Guard, as well as active and reserve components of the Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy.
IMHO (and that's all it is) I don't think we need to put all that much stock into the airports or specifically if a location has one or not.
In Find 815, Oceanic Air supposedly flew to Tustin, New York, Ames, etc. It really didn't amount to much but for places where billboards wound up in the real world, and nods to Kate and Locke et al I suppose. I guess my point is that we kinda just need to go with the idea that Ajira flies to these places whether they have an actual airport or not.
That said, all roads point to Guam (which saying Guam in my head for two days now, I have realized it is a very strange word, Guam, Guam...). I love the idea of the sky club numbers being the code too, although I'm inclined to think we just literally can not book a flight yet. However, that said, Find 815 went live on New Years Eve last year, just saying...
/End long rambling post :D.
I'll be going up North for New Year's Eve... so I'll be sure to look for a billboard as I pass Gaylord.. lol!
So, whose planning to be in Guam?
LOL, lost2010!!!
Where exactly at Guam airport?
It's pretty much right in the middle of thr island.
I lived there for 2 1/2 yrs. when my hubby was in the navy.
The DeGroots were from Michigan and attended U of Michigan
The DeGroots were from Michigan and attended U of Michigan
I am feeling so bummed right now - this was so fun yesterday but now there seems to be either nothing happening or else we're missing something. I hope this isn't like DWY where we start off thinking it's going to be awesome and then is just totally disappointing.
:-(
Crazy Bearded Jack said...
The DeGroots were from Michigan and attended U of Michigan
yep, and Camp Grayling is well-known all over the state of Michigan:)
and the land was donated by Rasmus Hanson... lol, Hanson; Hanso .. hahaha!
Dennis: Can always count on you to organize everything for us!
The "Supersonic is Commercial" makes me think that maybe Ajira can go supersonic. You need that speed to break through to get to your Destiny Destination...like the island.
ooh, I like that, maven! That's why you need the OJ from Alpert to make the trip bearable! It'd be great if he was the flight attendant?
capcom
Yes the Devil's Triangle is also the Dragon's Triangle and also known as the Devil's sea.
But yeah it looks like it's pretty close.
This is from one of the websites I posted earlier. I don't know the exact coordnates.
"Covering an area of about half a
million square miles, the Dragon’s
Triangle is located south of the
islands of Japan, reaches down to
the isle of Guam and across to the
island nation of Palau, east of the
Philippines. Curiously, the northern
tips of both the Dragon’s Triangle
and the Bermuda Triangle lie close
to the latitude of 35° north.
Be careful out there: The first 2 episodes have been seen by some entertainment reporters!
Oh jeez you said a mouthful Maven. I got my emailing from EW and I was so scared to look I didn't even look at the subject line or open it. DELETE! I've been accidentally spoiled by them one time too many. I've made it this far spoiler free...there's no going back.
I know! I have Jeff Jensen as my friend on FB...I hope he knows better than to say anything!
lost2010 - here's some info about that BSG site (if you're sensitive to BSG spoilers, avert your eyes! maven, I'm talking to you!):
It's supposed to give hints on the final cylon, but it's pretty vague. There's a couple of sound clips (one that's in one of the promos), the Last Supper photo, and a couple of video clips with some details either blurred out or bleeped out of the dialogue.
There is a funny clip with Gaeta (my personal pick for 5!) - he had the great idea to open restaurants shaped like food! Hee, hee.
They seem to be adding something new every couple of days.
Are you watching the webisodes? I have to catch up on the last couple, but so far, I'm not sure where they're going.
As far as Lost spoilers go, remember that once we start getting some real articles from EW, TV Guide, etc, you can check out spoiler-free versions at Spoiler Fixed
Thanks for the reminder about Spoiler Fixed, ML (and I averted my eyes! LOL).
I think darkufo has some pretty detailed spoilers over there too. They're pretty good about spoilerfonting everything but the comments aren't safe anymore.
@melissalossa - Thanks! I forgot there are webisodes! On sci-fi.com? - - I'll have to catch up. . .I had Adama picked out as the final cylon myself.. .I figured he never REALLY made it out of that lab on that ice planet. . .:)
BlackSwan, no, I didn't win, the numbers are bad luck.
I think New Year's Eve is significant. No reason, other than there's ARG history there.
When I think of pineapples in hawaii it think DOLE.
When I think of Concorde I think of grapes. I know, don't say it. I am sure that they mean for us to 'redeem' our Sky miles by chartering a supersonic jet.
Maybe you can travel this ARG as a single or go as a group. I am not sure that they mean for us to travel with 06. So I vote for '1 adult', leaving Guam, no 'To", destination destiny. Departing 'today'. (I don't not get any flight choices) .
The promotional code is probably a combination of letters and numbers. J (John) U (Ulysses) D (Dole) C (Concorde) 316, or PROMO316, etc. whatever. But I think we have been given the clue to this in either the ad or DSA from 12/29. Maybe it's white shoes! I'll have another listen.
thx neumox for looking at the diamonds again. :) However, I don't think Walt is in our returning group. Not yet anyway.
In the running banner, some of the letters flash over as 'code'? or other language. Does anyone else see this?
Lottery ticket: Re the running banner: Are you talking about the little promo that runs with the stewardess with the pin? There is a flash in there, but I have no talent to capture it!
I just noticed that when you pick destination destiny on the flights page, the "Returning" field disappears. Apparently destiny is a one-way trip. Are accomodations at the "Hotel California"?
Losit: It also disappears when you want to book "One-Way". I guess Destination Destiny is like the Roach Motel...you can get in but can't get out! LOL
Probably this refers to the central theme of the show: How much influence do we have on our fate? Is our life predestined?
Have a safe and Happy New Year's Eve and Day everyone! Remember the ARG waits for all men, so get off your computer and get out there and enjoy it. :-)
Yes, Happy New Year to everyone!
Sayidsgirl said: "reaches down to
the isle of Guam" Well, there ya have it!! :-D Tx for pulling out that info from the past.
LOL, Lostit about the Hotel California. :o)
Great advise Memphish.That extra year has made you wiser.
Happy New Year everyone, (It has already started).
I wonder what is on the TV that the passenger is watching. To me it looks like a log cabin in the snow with a dark sky. :-B
Probably not anything to get ruffled about.
capcom; the TV screen left is map, asia - australia. the TV screen right is images of face, possible movie? Exposé? LOL
Happy New Year all.
I just used.....
One Way
From: Los Angeles, CA
To: Guam
Departing: 1/21/2009
Select Flight: 316 11:30am
Adults: 10
Children: 0
Promotional Code: 112114111109111
and i got to a new page.
I just used.....
One Way
From: Los Angeles, CA
To: Guam
Departing: 1/21/2009
Select Flight: 316 11:30am
Adults: 10
Children: 0
Promotional Code: 112114111109111
and i got to a new page.
OMGOMGOMG!!!!! Me too! Now to pick a seat!!!
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