The jury is still out on the ARG'ness of all of this and we are not 100% sure if this third strand is an official ABC generated thing or not, however the organisation of it seems to be quite complex for something fan generated.
So to the plot, from what I can piece together from comments / other websites and reports from Comic Con, as this appears to be where this started.
At Comic-Con 2009 in the Lost panel as reported by Scoutpost on the Comic-Con 2009 Blog
"The first guy was really weird and gave Darlton a black velvet "painting" of them with a polar bear!" From other reports this just seemed like a fan being a fan and doing something fun, however this has now seemingly turned into something more interesting.
The person at Comic-Con was comedian Paul Scheer, and he told everyone to go to the site DamonCarltonAndAPolarBear.com it is a blog style site that has been posted to since July 20th. It has lots of Lost related posts, some about the creation of the painting leading up to and following Comic Con.
On the 3rd of August several people in the media seem to have received a packet in the post with a print of the painting and a letter from Paul :
The posts on the DamonCarltonAndAPolarBear.com site have recently been talking about Paul receiving threatening phone calls from a company called 'Ronie Midfew Arts' who say that their intellectual property is being breached. On the SlashFilm.Com website, this post, is from someone that knows Paul and has been sent the picture and letter from Paul and a letter from Ronie Midfew Arts :
This then leads us on to a web site for Ronie Midfew Arts which has a static picture telling us that 15 Will be lost The 16th Will be Found.
Is it a coincidence that Ronie Midfew Arts is an anagram of Widmore Fine Arts and that a widmorefinearts.com website has appeared ?
As always any help in understanding what is happening in the commments will be appreciated. Thanks to Mike in the comments for the first post about this.
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On the DamonCarltonandaPolarBear site someone has commented on the most recent post -
HansVanEeghen said: 2009.08.07 02:46
I hope that this is going to be worth it!
Not like the last time.
By the way i’m still in Dubai…
Black Swan
widmorefinearts.com was registered yesterday and it's not official.
It is not related with the other 2 sites that it seems that they belong to ABC.
http://roniemidfewarts.com/
and
http://damoncarltonandapolarbear.com/
have the same IP Location as the lostuniversity.org
Anonymous thanks for the information.
ABC seem to be going for it in a big way with Lost before the start of the final season.
I think, eventually, that this will lead to some ideas about how things may have changed since the bomb...ya think?
BTW, you guys are doing a great job of coverage and discovery! Thanks...:)
xxoo
Interesting theory Ellen, although I'm not 100% sure I can see the path at the moment !
Do you think that the three streams of promotion could be related ?
Well, my last comment was a bit ambiguous, so let me clarify...
Wouldn't Daniel Faraday be considered one of the missing scientists if things were the same as before? I don't see him among the missing...so, I presume that things may have indeed changed. I don't know, what do you guys think?
xxoo
I do. Simply because Daniel left the Island and went to Ann Arbor and I know that they really can't use the University of Michigan as the backdrop for a promotional tool, so they made it "Lost U"...maybe. I'm almost sure that we'll either see or hear more about the DeGroots and the "goings on" at the beginning of the Dharma Initiative. Even though Daniel managed to get killed, perhaps the bomb really did do what he intended and he is alive.
Either that, or there are now 3 time streams existing at the same time...:D
Ah yes I can see the Mysteries showing us some altered timeline information.
Would Daniel show up as missing ?
That is a question that we haven't had answered on the show - how did Daniel get taken back to the island. Was he given DI status before he left, or did he get re-recruited after he left ?
good questions, zort! It seems, if indeed time was "split," then Daniel's activities could have been as you say, or, he could have deceived everyone and used his real knowledge to do so. Perhaps he posed as a real Dharma scientist on the sub when he left and then was admitted into some of the inner circle at Ann Arbor because of his advanced knowledge of physics and his intense interest in the Island? I don't know, but it'll be interesting to find out (hopefully!)
xxoo
Hey gang
The piture on Paul's DC&APB site looks like he's been in the shredder.
We're also suppose to get a video once it's finished downloading to his computer.
It would be cool if this really is an ARG.
Is Paul the new Rachel Blake ?
Sorry that should be the new RACHEL BLAKE
LOL Yes how could you forget those CAPS Zort.
I don't know if he is, but I like that idea.
Great post Zortster! And yes, we can never forget RACHEL FONT! Heheh.
I really like where you're going with the Daniel thougts, Ellen. I also hope that we find out how Dan managed to get off the isalnd and insert himself into the Ann Arbor scene. With his credentials (and time traveling experience to boot) I can imagine that once he was able to get the ear of someone in charge, they'd eventually listen. Much like his efforts with Chang.
Oh no, Scheer is putting together pieces of video? Ugh, deja vu feelings of Sri Lanka, this will take forever maybe! :-o
I was thinking about the next season and how the story telling might evolve, instead of flash backs / forwards will we see flash sideways.
By that I mean episodes where we see different timeline possibilities, one where the bomb went off and one where it didn't.
Ohboy, better get my head ready for that! :-D
I think I'm getting excited by this possibility of a new ARG! LOL
Personally, I know it doesn't take THAT long to upload a Flipcam video (we just got one!). LOL
At Comic Con, when that "fan" came on with the painting, we all thought it was a waste of valuable Comic Con time! Little did we know!
Yeah, I didn't know who the "crazy" fan was, that is Paul Scheer, but I had a feeling that it was a scripted and planned out thing.
According to the peeps at DarkUFO/SpoilerTV both DC&APB and Ronniemidfewarts.com both ping back to the same IP address, and I think it's an ABC address. If that is true then this probably is for sure an ARG, why else then would they have the same address. Plus if Paul S. was just doing this to promote himself, again why would he have the same IP address as RMA and why would it be an ABC address?
The other thing I keep thinking is that when sites/ARG's are fake, they usually proceed along quite quickly and don't make us wait until Aug. 15, for example. just sayin'
So I'm still proceeding with caution, but this is starting to "smell" like an ARG to me. I hope it is, and if so, it is starting to have the characteristics of TLE as opposed to Find815 and DWY. So keep our fingers crossed!
And, Maven, I agree with the flip cam comment, I even commented on Paul's blog about that, that my flip doesn't take that long to download! LOL
Looks like DocArzt has had the same letter from Paul and MidFew.
Also, when you click on the privacy policy at the bottom of DCAAPB it links to the ABC privacy policy. Is there any reason Paul S. would do that unless he were part of something? I wish someone would just come out and verify it so I could stop holding my breath!
Hi guys! I don't want to get my hopes up too much yet but I'm excited!
Whether its an ARG or not, that guy with the velvet painting was Crazy!! I thought it was awesome and weird, so maybe this will go somewhere. Keep in touch!
Paul updated his blog again, thanking everyone for their support. He also posted a letter DocArtz wrote to RMA stating that the fans back up Paul and his fan art.
Paul Scheer has made a post thanking everyone for their support. Specificly thanking docArtz.
No video yet.
I knew I should have refreshed before I posted. Sorry scoutpost.
The polarbear site the word and is a link but seems to redirect you back to the same page any thoughts?
To support Paul I've altered the LostArgs logo
That's nice Zort.
Looks like we won't get a video before Monday.
paul scheer website
Nice work Zort!
I've just seen your comment about the quilt Maven, just hope there is not a quilting branch of Ronie Midfew :-)
Woot!! This really does seem to be a new ARG!!
Sayid'sgirl, you're right. Looks like we have to wait 'til Monday for anything new from Paul Sheer. You're link didn't work for me, so I'll add it here again.
Hope that worked!
I half expect a "Cease and Desist Order", too, Zort! LOL
That would be great, maven.. LOL!
Oops Thanks Black Swan for re linking.
There's a new post on damoncarltonandapolarbear. It's about a poll concerning whose beards on LOST are Beardo or Wierdo. But Anonymouse on SpoilerTV forum said that if you hover your mouse over each pick numbers come up. Might be some kind of puzzle or code.
This really is shaping up like the real thing. DarkUFO said he was going to talk to his guy at ABC to find out if this is the real deal, so hopefully we'll know by Monday. The numbers have got to mean something. I wonder if we'll need them when Paul posts the video on Monday. I wonder if we'll need them to plug into something, like a combination. Some people are wondering if it's a sudoku puzzle...well you know I'm clueless. ;)
Hi Maven and Scoutpost! good work! I went to the velvet polar bear site and made some notes here. Interestingly, when I added the "across" and "down" columns, they both equal 178. I don't do sudoku puzzles, so I don't know if this means anything?
Maybe all it does is prove that it is a sudoku and I have no idea if the number 178 means anything.. lol!
Just for fun I took the number 178 and divided it by 9 (the number of guys shown with beards in the grid) and I came up with 19.777777777777777777777777777778
1977 ?!
I'm sure I'm reading too much into this.. (I'm good at that) LOL!
I'm not sure it's sudoku (which probably means it is haha). I think it's some kind of code, but just don't know what kind. Do the numbers represent letters? Why is Hurley 12-1? Is it one of those where you take a book and copy the 21st letter on the 11th line of whatever page, kind of thing? Like we did with Bad Twin back in TLE? I also think it's code because Michael is 03...not just 3, like the zero has to be there.... eh well, where is Dennis our Slovaltine hero?
Yes, it's strange that Charlie is "charlie" and not a #. The 12-1 and 03 has to mean something. My brain is not working! lol
It's gonna drive me crazy because they gave this on the weekend, when no one's checking and now it's late, so no one's online except the west coasters. It looks like something Dennis would've given us for slovaltine, but I have tried to do different things and just don't come up with an answer. Trying to think outside the box LOL!
scoutpost, I don't know soduku either, but I find it interesting that BOTH the across rows total sum and the down rows total sum add up to 178. I took it that Hurley's 12-1=11 and that Charlie's wasn't a number to mean =0 when I did my calculations, btw. I'm sure there could be other ways to interpret the grid and numbers given. A good resource for ARG type tools is here:
http://www.unfiction.com/resource/otools/
BTW, if you add the numbers in 178 (1+7+8) you get 16! And that is what it says at Ronie Midfew Arts. LOL, THE 16th WILL BE FOUND!!
Thanks BlackSwan...
I do have the unfiction resource in my bookmarks. I wish I were better at these things. Someone will probably come along and easily solve it. It's just driving me crazy because there's no discussion on it really because it's late Saturday night- and it has to mean something! The obsession has begun!!! ;P
I like that, BS, 1+7+8=16. But what are we supposed to do with that? We already know something might happen on the 16th.
My brain isn't functioning yet for ARG puzzles! LOL
I also have that link bookmarked. Thanks, BS!
just noticed on DCAAPB- below the pictures where it's asking beardo vs. weirdo that Weirdo is boldfaced. Think that means something or is is just a typo?
You'd think the horizontal sums and vertical sums both equally 178 wouldn't be coincidence, but yeah...what does it mean...? Ok seriously, I need to step away from the computer!
I have no idea yet, but maybe the number 178 will become like a password or something? I don't know! I'm using my numbers and turning them from ASCII to HEX right now. I'll let you know if I come up with something..
Sorry, I've got nothing so far.. and I'm on the East Coast, so it's too late now and I can't think anymore.. lol! I hope someone less tired and smarter than me comes up with something. I'll check back here tomorrow! Good-night!
Hi everyone :)
I have been really curious about this new possible ARG, so I've been reading up on all of the different blogs that are related to all things LOST.
I think I may have found something, but I am not sure how relevant it may be.
I was reading this blog and scrolled down to the section on Mysteries of the Universe. I followed the link to Der Merzmensch's blog and found a link to this website:
http://www.79waky.com/photos4.htm
If you scroll down to about the middle of the page, there is a picture of a "Pledge" that says, "The Weird Beard is my leader. I will have no leader before him."
I don't know if this is all just coincidence or if it really means something.
Let me know what you guys think.
Der Merzmensch has taken screen shots from the Mysteries videos and found some interesting things.
http://merzmensch.blogspot.com/
Black Swan I hope you don't mind but I've used your excellent analysis picture on a new post on the blog.
Roxanna, yes we and Der Merzmensch found this link together, it is almost too much of a coincidence not to be significant.
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hello..I too am a recipient of a print of DC&PB. After having some fun on Paul 's DC&PB website,,it was arranged by his assistance to be sent to me in Thanks for helping his website a success. Soon after receiving the print, I too received a letter from RonieMidfew Arts..telling me what I can't do with the print.
So,, I am involved in this mystery. I post on abc.com as " mungonna"..am known as " mel". I am feeling very much like the Jimmy Stewart characters in the Hitchcock movies. I am now involved in something that I have no idea as to where its going, but the mystery is good enough for me to see where it goes. I tried calling the Mailbox Int'l from which the RMA letter was sent ,( thanks to Google Maps) but they are closed until 10am Monday. For what it is worth,,here is the address and phone number of the Mailbox International that is the return address of the letter from RMA:
Alexandra
Ronie Midfew Arts
4872 Topanga Canyon Blvd
#351
Woodland Hills CA 91364
818 340 7087
I am not sure if I am a piece of this game,,but part of me wants to take the offense and go against this RMA outfit. Okay..I have a great distaste for the Widmore character. I have no idea where this is all leading to, but something tells me to help shape it.
I am interested to know if any other " civilians" have found themselves recruited into a ARG, without realizing it at first. This is all very surreal for me, but if any know of me from abc.com..LOST and surrealism have been one and the same for me since the beginning.
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