Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Ugly Duckling or Beautiful Swan Station ? 307

Ok, so the 10th poster is The Swan Station, at first glance it is far simpler than the other posters and doesn't really depict a specific Lost moment. That might actually be its beauty, that it is simple but full of symbolism.

The Swan depicted is not an image that has been used on the show, and anyone hanging this on a wall will have a lot of explaining to do when asked about its significance. On closer inspection of the real print the Swan also has a red and black eye which to my mind makes it look slightly evil.

However simple it appears on the surface there are a few Lost elements here, the I Ching symbols that are part of the Dharma Bagua, the dark / light conflict, the countdown clock symbols, and the lines that could depict water for the Swan to float on, but I think it is more likely to symbolise the electromagnetic radiation that the Swan Station is trying to contain.

So on to some pictures of the print now it has started to arrive, the first below is from Patmc, Pat sent a couple of pics in but I chose this one as it has another Lost reference in it. Tell us what you think it is in the comments.


Some closeups of the elements :


Mike has let us know that the Swan eye on his poster is slightly different.

The assumption is that this is part of the nature of hand pulling the silk screen prints, that there will be subtle variations.




The timer clock symbols from the show

As always some signatures, thanks to Comixguru, ReverendMilo, MEL and Patmc :






Finally some statistics, as Twitter is used a lot for reporting back and spreading the word, these are a couple of stats about the hashtags #Lostarg and #Lost from around the time of the reveal they stats were taken a day apart but you can compare the day of the poster reveal. :


307 comments:

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Justin said...

don't worry MeSoCrazy, i made the same mistake a few min ago lol!

Jesse! Rikkitik said...

yeah...hard to tell if 2'oclock guy is just funny or means something. I'm 50/50 about 2pm or that the url will just be on pingpong balls...

MeSoCrazy said...

I thought it looked like Michael too but then I didn't. I now want to go play ping pong though down stairs at my work. But I'm alone, which isn't as fun. Although a bunch of pictures of me in 12 different ping pong positions would be.. yeah I'm just going off nothing. I can't figure out these things. I'm just trying to be part of the club. Stop. Hammer Time.

The Bench Coach said...

i think the people at the reveal between 6pm and 8pm will have to look closely. I doubt there's more to this image...

AndySchex said...

Not sure if this is relevant, but some of the guys in the clue are from SPiN's "The Dirty Dozen" event that's on Friday.

The guy at 2 o'clock has a laptop.

The guys at 12, 2, 3, 4,5,6,8,10, and 11 are right handed. 1, 7, and 9 o'clock are left handed.

Other than those things, I don't know what the "look closely..." means.

reAnimated said...

6 - 8PM too. Maybe it will be more difficult to find the URL since its not a definite time.

Attorney Greg said...

The singles pick up night starts at 6pm.

kiwilostie said...

Well if its not Harold Perrineau holding the lappy, thens whos the funky looking white guy with the cheescutter (well it looks like a cheescutter hat) bottom left? Looks out of place to the others.

Justin said...

damn...i don't think i'll get much work done tomorrow - I'll be glued to DCAAPB refreshing all day.

WHY the look closely?????? don't mess with us like that!! lol. :(

PessimisticLines said...

8 o'clock looks like Giovanni Ribisi. Whatever that means.

Unknown said...

maybe they are going to reveal the url on the spin website at 2:00 and then during 6-8 they'll give out swag at the store?

Ginger said...

I agree tim, since that's the only real difference I can see. But you don't really have to look close to see that IMO

kiwilostie said...

And hes got the only blue bat.

Attorney Greg said...

I'm sticking with my original though - its on the ping pong balls

maven said...

Can these guys be enlarged...my eyes won't let me look too closely! LOL

So who will be there for sure? Amy Lynn: It's a good time for you?

Amy Lynn said...

Yup, 6pm is beautiful.

Walkindude125 said...

Okay my two cents:

the laptop guy has a picture just like that on the spin website, so I don't think he has any huge signifgances for our reveal.

Also the time frame is 6-8, so my guess? Get there at 6, and find the trainers who are pictured in the 6-8 positions! If we find out their names from the website, maybe those are the trainers you need to find tomorrow at 6 to get the URL.

kiwilostie said...

Or you will have to look closely to see the tiny url writing on 'every single ping pong ball being played with at the time you arrive'??... I dunno!

maven said...

Yep, I don't think they've ever given directions before on the final clue except to be there on time.

tim armstrong said...

sweet i'm free at 6 tomorrow. lets hope it's Jay Ryan's print.

ahhh, how i love The Gaslight Anthem.

RobPerrin said...

Walkindude125 - I like that theory. Need to find Mr. Two O'Clock who will then give out the URL. Hopefully we don't have to play him for it.

Amy Lynn said...

I'm OK with it being complicated. I like The Amazing Race.

The Kharma Initiative said...

Every person in the image is holding a paddle of some sort. No ping pong balls in sight.

We'll need to look closely at the paddles at Spin, not ping pong balls. The URL will be printed on a paddle.

Cosmically Yours

tim armstrong said...

it might be complicated but i dont see it happening at a time other than 6 to 8 pm est.

i'll be READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andalone said...

Is there any king of signal code for the way some of the paddles are being held? I can't help but think some of those poses are awfully odd.

melissarenee311 said...

so we can't enlarge any of the images?

TheHoJo said...

http://www.spinyc.com/galleries
If you go to the video for "lessons" you will see a lot of the images on the new clue...also our laptop friend is in the bottom left video...not sure if this is old news.

Dan said...

All I can say is that I'm glad this picture is up less than 24 hours before the reveal because it would have undoubtedly caused me to lose my mind if it was up any longer.

Also, 6-8pm is better for me than 11am in terms of being able to attend, but I'm unfortunately still not sure if I can. Damnit.

Scoutpost said...

hmmm...that time will be a little difficult for me because the kids will be around, but should be ok. I'll have to check the rest of comments later, at least we know the details now.

Congested said...

I'm going to see if I like the poster, possibly buy it, then head down.

TheHoJo said...

http://www.spinyc.com/lessons/coaches

maven said...

It's a great time for me on the west coast! But I know I'm not fast enough now for a chance, and I haven't magically grown any wall space either.

maven said...

Thanks, TheHoJo! Just "stock" photos from Spin. I think our representatives at the reveal will have to "look closely" at the paddles or ping pong balls.

TheHoJo said...

I'm guessing it will be printed on the ping pong balls as well. That means grab a bucket of them and run on out :)

tim armstrong said...

you guys aren't so bad. good luck everyone!

Anonymous said...

I got a bad feeling about this.

Ginger said...

Think that will be the swag?

postercal said...

I'm guessing the URL reveal and poster sale will happen at 2 (or shortly thereafter) and the free swag will still be given away later in the evening between 6 - 8.

Ginger said...

I meant ping pong balls or paddles w/url on them.

feel_the_insanity said...

Ugh, I was really hoping they do a surprise reveal. Seems to be the only fair way to do this, everyone with the fast PCs get the poster. I can kiss this poster goodbye...sorry to be Debbie Downer...

maven said...

What makes some people feel it will be an earlier surprise reveal? Except for the swag, what would the point of going to Spin mean?

tim armstrong said...

2 est is bad for me, i need to pick up my son at 230pm.

i hope some of the more paranoid are wrong.

postercal said...

@ maven - perhaps the organizers have realized there are folks that don't want to attend the reveals for fear they may miss the poster sale. So, this way, people can try for the poster and later head over to Spin and get the free stuff.

JT said...

I don't think they will be tricky with the time. In Argentina they probably thought there wouldn't be anyone who could go find the mural, so just revealed it online. Also, they may not have known when it would be finished.

vabauer said...

postercal, while I think that would be ideal and truly fair, I don't think they'll change their M.O. this far into the game.

At this point in time, even if I was in NY I probably wouldn't go because it seriously hurts your chances at getting the poster, I suppose the folks behind the scenes are thinking: swag or poster, but not both

vabauer said...

geez, need to change my pic, everyone must think I'm an alien or went through the Incident, the Swan station meltdown or both...

comixguru said...

catching up on comments...

Ginger- glad you and the fam are all okay!

Martyn & Kiwi - fellow MUSE fan here! Saw them two years ago in los angeles. BEST. CONCERT. EVER!!!!

LT & MEL - loved your shoe pic. awesome.

Ginger said...

ya vabauer! it's pretty creepy in a "klingon/alien about to abduct me" kind of way:)

tim armstrong said...

top chef rules

Anonymous said...

reveals obviously going to be at two unless the laptop is the swag, well probably have to check out the site at 2

Ginger said...

Thanks Comixguru! Me too.
I saw Muse back in October when they opened for U2 @ Cowboys Stadium. Awesome concert!

feel_the_insanity said...

@anon...Na, I think the reveal will be between 6 and 8. I agree with whoever said it earlier, they're not going to change their MO this far into it. Though, I wish they would. Be at the computer at 6 EST.

ObFuSc8 said...
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tim armstrong said...

fti, are you sure someone eb didn't say the game hasn't changed thus far?

maven said...

I think they might make the BUY NOW time frame longer. I can't seem them doing this without the involvement of the reveal site.

Brad Sobolewski said...

anybody going to be there live with a twitter account

feel_the_insanity said...

@tim...What?

(n) said...

I have no idea if this was mentioned yet but....

...look closely...

I think the URL will be on a ping pong ball :D

tim armstrong said...

just that the idea that the game hasn't changed thus far was brought up over there.

at this point i dont think they say six to eight and then drop the print at two. if they were willing to change the game they would have gotten rid of the leaked url's by now.

i need to listen to more against me!

feel_the_insanity said...

Sorry Tim, no clue what you're talking about. vabauer said earlier that they wouldn't change their MO this late into the game. Not too sure what you're getting at.

Sandman90 said...

I looked into the eye of this clue, and what I saw... was this:

1:00 - Bill Cosby
2:00 - Michael (proud of the upgrade from the Hatch computer)
3:00 - Screech
4:00 - Ed Grimley
5:00 - Christopher Pine
6:00 - Caesar (from season 6)
7:00 - Seal
8:00 - Giovanni Rabisi
9:00 - Tony Horton
10:00 - Sun
11:00 - Some dorky kid that looks alot like me at that age.
12:00 - Beck Hansen

Slodis said...

I'll be going... You can follow my twitter: poster13reveal

tim armstrong said...

i'm on the same page wit you. i promise.

sometimes beer gets the better of us. that or i'm really trying to be tim armstrong.

Sandman90 said...

That should be:
6:00 -Caesar (from Season 5)

maven said...

Thanks, Soldis. You should let Lottery Ticket know...she has a list going for Frame 13.

lora said...

Those of you going to SPiN should check out the "Fred Perry Room". It has a mirrored ping-pong table, and only costs $1,000 per hour to rent. :)

ObFuSc8 said...

ARGers, we have been asking for something to mix it up, make it more than a straight forward reveal, and TYSON heard us.

This is the same as what Alex and I think a couple others have already posted. The pics the "playas" are pasted from SPiN's Menu of coaches.

Even the 3 o'clock guy -- Bill Mack -- is shown that way in his pic. So that ISN'T the clue.

They wouldn't put up a range of times unless it was significant for some reason.

One possibility was posted above -- getting to SPiN before 6 PM and approaching the Playas at the 6-8 o'clock positions. Look at their paddles, or get ping pong balls from them, or maybe a combo of both.

6 o'clock -- Alexis Perez
7 o'clock -- Wally Green
8 o'clock -- Tahl Leibovitz

But, I am on the SPiN website now, and you can request to BOOK TIME with the coaches. I am trying to see what happens if I try this for the 6-8 PM coaches.

Where are the Rev or Thorsten? -- we need an image breakdown just to see if there's anything else -- though I'd doubt it.

ObFuSc8 said...
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Amy Lynn said...

I'm out for the night - gotta rest up so I don't get hit with ping pong balls tomorrow.

JT said...

Sandman- I'm tired but that's still funny.

Slodis- can't find poster13reveal on twitter. Have you set it up yet?

Attorney Greg said...

Nice find HoJo on the pics.

tim armstrong said...

and out come the wolves

hehe, that kinda works here as an allegory

my name makes more sense than i originally knew.

Unknown said...

I zoomed in as fas as I could and could not read anything on the 2:00 laptop. What about the 7:00 guy between 6 & 8 pm. And why does it say 6-8 ET not EST?

The Spin website says


Thursday Singles Pick-Up Night Register here!

November 12th, 6pm til Midnight

Looking for a new playmate? Get out of your buddy’s basement and onto the court. Test out your game on a fresh crew of fellow table-tennis aficionados Round-Robin style and forget those retail prices.

In day-to-day life, it’s not so simple but with table tennis, polyamory is preferred. Love everyone, play with a multitude of partners and we promise you will be pleased, challenged, invigorated. Come stag and make a new friend or bring some of your own, it’s up to you, but for $10 a person why wouldn’t want to get your ass handed to you by a bunch of strangers?

Register online or in person the night of. This is not an all-venue event so if you don’t want to share you don’t have to. $10 a player. Open to the public, anyone may attend.

ObFuSc8 said...

Slodis -- is your Twitter feed locked -- I can't search for your user name.

Sandman90 said...

Obfusc8 - Are you saying that Ed Grimley isn't involved in the reveal?!

ObFuSc8 said...

LOL Sandman

comixguru said...

Sandman90 - hilarious. love ed grimly!

ObFuSc8 said...

Have requested a lesson with the 8 o'clock coach at 6 PM.

Email says:
You have requested a lesson with Tahl Leibovitz on Thursday November 12 at 06:00 PM. You will be hearing from us shortly.

Sandman90 said...

Catching up on today's posts. Who will be attending the reveal at this point? Ob8? Others?

ObFuSc8 said...

Sorry Sandman, I am hundreds of miles from the reveal.

Just trying to see what this clue means -- thought if I tried to book a coach for the times in question I might get some type of secret message. That's all.

Amy Lynn is going. Someone above that I haven't seen here before -- Slodis said they'd go, but I can't find their twitter username .

HenryGaleWasHere said...

Are all the pics around the "clock" found on the website? Or is there someone that doesn't belong? Like, their pic isn't from the site?

maven said...

ObFuSc8: I found Sodis' twitter although I had to enter it with the whole URL:

ObFuSc8 said...

All the Playas are from the website.

In addition there are 4 on the SPin site that do not appear on the clock face.

ObFuSc8 said...

Thanks Maven.

I am going to wait an hour, then call SPiN.

Slodis said...

Thanks maven... Not sure why you had to enter the whole thing. If anyone else is going though let me know through twitter.

JT said...

Thanks much Maven. Have couple of people going from LP- bu one will be late and one doesn't use twitter. May be one more- will forward address if we get one. One poor fellow is filming something a block away and can't get over.

comixguru said...

Slodis, i am following you. Thanks for going to the reveal! and good luck and have fun! :)

Congested said...

@TheBenchCoach. Make sure you reload the hub.

Slodis said...

poster13reveal

Here's my twitter again for those who are having trouble.

Slodis said...

What's really bugging me is that the time states from 6 - 8. Why not just say 6pm?

ObFuSc8 said...

Slodis -- it could be a reference to the coaches at 6-8 o'clock positions.

Or maybe you will be give a part of the URL, a piece at a time over those 2 hours.

Slodis said...

Hmmm, could be... I was looking back at the older reveal clues and the only other reveal that had a time range like this was the one at crumbs. The guys there were wearing dharma jumpsuits... maybe we'll have to look for someone.

lora said...

I just realized that the actual "On Sale Soon" to "Buy Now" F5 frenzy may take place during FlashForward! I guess DVR and full episodes online were invented for situations like this.

Rob said...

Does anybody have the url for account registration? I signed up for it but lost track of the url, and I'd like to make sure all my info is correct and be signed in before the drop. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I sent LT a tweet about slodis's list so she can add it to her frame13 list.

@slodis, thanks again. We chatted on spoilertv. I did have trouble finding your twitter, went through Congested's page to find it. I never thought about typing in the full url to locate it.

That isn't Harold Perrineau, sorry. There is something i'm wondering about however regarding the location of Spin New York since Harolds name was brought up. Seems it's in the Flatiron District of NYC, i'm wondering if its in the Flatiron Building. Some may remember the conversation Michael had with Walt about the buildings in NYC and specifcally mentioned The Flatiron Building.

Perhaps a visit by someone unexpected hence "look closely"? Just throwing ideas out there.

Do the colors of the paddles they're holding make a difference, or does the man with the laptop with the red paddle hold a clue? The men at 6:00 and 8:00 have blue paddles but 3:00 paddle color is difficult to tell even at 400% magnified. Also, the person at 9:00 is a woman.

I'd hate to think that whoever is going has to look through 100's of ping pong balls to find the url. Given the description I read of this place (very cool btw) ping balls fly around everywhere, they have people employed just to go around to pick up ping pong balls.

Anonymous said...

notsimba said...
I zoomed in as fas as I could and could not read anything on the 2:00 laptop. What about the 7:00 guy between 6 & 8 pm. And why does it say 6-8 ET not EST?
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I think because there were questions raised regarding the posting of EST when we weren't in EST (before we changed out clocks November 1st) we were still in EDT. Maybe they just decided to stick with ET to keep it simple. Hell, maybe they got bombarded with phone calls about the EST thing for all we know.

mtutick said...

Amy, requested to follow you on twitter for the reveal. User name is tm_long. Have fun tomorrow!

ChrisL said...

Could they just be letting everyone know that you can use your laptop to stop a whole load of calls and emails today asking if they have WIFI? But why the 2 o'clock position? Perhaps they think the 6-8pm timeline rather than a specific time will ease the pressure a little.

Lostie said...

Sorry but why are we thinking its at 2 o clock. I honestly dont think the computer means anything. www.spinyc.com/lessons/coaches The pic is just from this site and that is it.

mrtibbs said...

I thought the guy with the blue bat at 8 o clock was something different, but as everyone says they're just all off the site…

MJCarp said...

so much to say . . . home safe and sound but bleary. thanks for all your kind words. when the sun rises I'll be ready to go. adding tweoples as I find them. @poster13reveal you are all set, tweet a message.

SPiN has wifi. They may be telling you that you can bring your laptops instead of a paddle and try for a poster . . .

lines are being drawn, connecting, separating, one to another. we talk about our posters and their meaning, artist intent. we talk about our lives, hopes, dreams. one such line offered a brief chance meeting. thank you MEL for being present in the moment and the lovely lines about the Swan Station. your gift is evident and precious and we benefit from your words.

ChrisL said...

After looking at the site I tend to agree that the computer is irrelevant and the Look Closely is all about when you're there between 6 and 8.

dylansdad said...

I'm taking my son to Disneyland tomorrow for his birthday, so I will miss the reveal--but I was able to get last week's print so I'm satisfied at this point. I wish you all luck and I hope everybody has fun!

Zort70 said...

Morning all NEW POST for the new clue.

I'm just going to go and read all the comments since it was posted to see what I've missed.

Kylee Noelle {the blog} said...

i feel like they wouldn't go through the trouble to make this clock face and put everyone on it unless it was relevant...i mean why a clock full of people? i just think it's weird...

Unknown said...

Hello??? ..Here's a funky question, would anyone that's gone to a reveal be interested in exchanging swag? I went to the Melrose one and got a lost bag but i dont like it cuz it just reminds me of how i missed out on that pretty swan poster for attending the reveal instead of f5ing at home.
..right now the bag is hangin on a chair in the corner, mocking me as i type this...
Another dumb question: I still dont get what that widmore swag was. What is that?? A folder or something?
PPS: Can i see (admire?) that quilt?

Zort70 said...

Hi Matthew, probably best if you join us in the comments for the new post.

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